Lex Fridman

Like I said, ASML at every scale.

But NVIDIA is going to give them a run for their money.

This is wonderful.

You've recently traveled to China.

Yeah.

So it's interesting to ask you, China has been incredibly successful in building up its technology sector.

What do you understand about how China is able to, over the past 10 years, build so many incredible world-class companies?

world-class engineering teams and just this technology ecosystem that produces so many incredible products.

Plus culturally, it's pretty cool to be an engineer.

It connects to all the components that you're mentioning.

It's a builder nation.

It's a builder nation.

To take a small tangent, because you mentioned open source, I have to go to Perplexity here, who you have been a fan of a long time.

I love it, yeah.

And thank you for releasing open source Nematron 3 Super, which you can also use inside Perplexity to look stuff up, which is a 120 billion parameter open weight MOE model.

What's your vision with open source?

So you mentioned China with DeepSeq and Minimax with all these companies really pushing forward the open source AI movement.

And NVIDIA is really leading the way in close to state-of-the-art open source LLMs.

Well, I have to say, once again, thank you for open sourcing, really, truly open sourcing Nemetron 3.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing.