Lex Fridman

It's really incredible.

You're originally from Taiwan and have a close relationship with TSMC.

So I have to ask, TSMC, I think, also is a legendary company in terms of the engineering teams, in terms of the incredible engineering work that they do.

What do you understand about TSMC culture and their approach that explains how they're able to achieve this singular unmatched success in everything they're doing with semiconductors?

Where they trust, I mean, there's a really close relationship there that you have established, and that trust is established based on many years of performance, but there's human relationships involved there as well.

Okay.

There's a story that in 2013, the founders of TSMC, Morris Chang, offered you the chance to become TSMC's chief executive.

And you said you already had a job.

Is this story true?

Story is true.

I think NVIDIA, both NVIDIA and TSMC are two of the greatest companies in the history of human civilization.

Running either one, I'm sure, is an incredibly complicated effort.

Intakes, you have to truly be all in.

Everybody at every scale, not just at the CEO level, everybody is really truly all in.

Yeah, no doubt.

To accomplish this kind of complexity.

See, now I can help both companies.

Exactly.

So NVIDIA is now the most valuable company in the world.

I have to ask, what is the NVIDIA's biggest moat, as the folks in the tech sector say?