Liam Donovan

He obviously has a ton of power institutionally.

And to me, it obviously seems like the orderly path is to hand it off to his vice president and successor.

You know, I do think that.

Whatever happens next, it's going to be based on how Republicans deal with the fact that the old version of the party is not what the voters wanted.

It's not coming back, and it may not be in the form that we currently see it, but you need to find something that appeals to your voters and that –

that does not get stuck trying to solve the problems of the 80s and 90s, because that seems to be the tendency.

Like, we've had the tug of war between Donald Trump or, like, Nikki Haley.

Like, it just can't be that.

There has to be something different.

And there has to be something that acknowledges

Trump's appeal and what he's figured out while also, you know, making it less personality based.

And I think that's that's going to be the challenge for anybody, whether it's J.D.

or anybody else.

It's a great question.

I mean, I worry about being generals fighting the last war.

You know, I think people have been trying to figure out what Trumpism without Trump looks like for the past, you know, really the past decade, because there was there was an expectation that he'd be a flash in the pan.

And so you have to figure out how to take the good and and then just the rest.

You know, I think the different flavors have certainly been there's I mean, Rubio's I think Rubio's.

transformation has been fascinating and quite effective in a lot of ways.

I think, I mean, that's too easy.