Lieutenant Dave Messmore

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139 appearances 9 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard May 2025

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It's a chase. You know, you're chasing them. They're trying to get away. You're trying to catch them. And they're trying to not leave clues, and we're trying to find clues. It's like trying to solve a hard puzzle.
Oh, for sure. For sure. You know, how's this going to stop? Is he just going to quit? Are we going to catch him? Or is somebody going to die?
There was a risk the entire time of it spreading to neighbors' homes or burning an entire neighborhood. I felt like it was my responsibility.
I asked for the meeting and asked if we could host it at Tim's house.
It was in his front living room, and that was the first big public interaction we had.
Starting off like introducing ourselves, giving out our information, phone numbers, asking for information, sharing what limited information we could share and what we were doing and how important it was to us as a police department. Hear their ideas or their concerns and do what we could to address those.
They're upset at a lot of things. This neighborhood sits up against the preserves. All these people are fearful. What's next? Is somebody going to get hurt? Is somebody else's house going to burn? Whose house? Is it my house? Is it your house?
We didn't know who was in the audience. And, I mean, that proved out.
Afterwards, she came up and introduced herself.
Honestly, I was offended she was there and didn't introduce herself to begin with.
We felt it was a neighborhood problem. We didn't feel like it was a federal government problem, and I'd worked with the FBI before, and this isn't their forte.
Or we weren't in the right area, right? The preserve is enormous.
They had some hardcore environmental leanings and had some light criminal history.
He lived up against a preserve in an old house and was kind of a hermit. They'd been there for a long time. Development had gone on around him.
We spent a lot of time surveilling him, watching him, doing everything we could. We did search warrants. We looked at his trash. We did all kinds of stuff.
People were upset, scared, fearful.
Think about every aspect of your life that that day changed. I mean, my God, that's real terrorism.
I went 30 years with Collier, trying to convince him that his dad was a liar. And he'd say, well, maybe he'll get out and he can live with me.
I said, oh, that's a good idea. I said, it's just a matter of time until he kills you. You're the one that testified against him. If you think he doesn't forget that, you're very, very mistaken.
We just got hooked on him and really liked him.
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