Lisa Miller
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
So he is Javier, and she is Jean.
They live in New England in sort of a nice suburb.
They had been married for 15 years.
And I think maybe it's helpful to talk first about what their relationship was like before the drugs.
And it goes back to high school.
They both grew up in Sacramento.
What did you notice about her?
Like, what made you like her?
But she was like in a bigger body and excruciatingly self-conscious about that.
And he had a crush on her.
So even though she had a crush on him too, she wouldn't believe it.
They were unrequited high school sweethearts.
And they each married other people.
And they both told me about the first time that they had sex.
The way he talked about it was just as this unbelievably magical, uninhibited interaction.
And other women.
and I'm running the story by the both of them.
And she was like, I don't exactly remember it that way.
They get married.
Yeah, they move to the East Coast where she gets big jobs in corporations.