Lisa Sander

Well, my thing is, why are we not getting C, we'll call it something else, credits for families?

Why aren't we going to conferences to, yeah, how to learn how to have a better family, how to have a better relationship?

Like we put all this stuff into our work, but where are we putting it back into our family and our relationships?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think families need it.

It's amazing.

Yeah, it does.

And going, reflecting back to Kathy also, when she talked about, you know, before people die, they have all these grudges with families and families are coming at the bedside and they're all saying their amends and apologizing for stuff and saying, I love you.

I'm sorry I hurt you.

Well, why do we wait for that moment?

Like make the right steps now and communicate with the people that you love.

Set the boundaries.

Be like, you know what?

I love being with you, but two hours is good.

And leave unhappy terms.

Don't stick around so long that you have unhappy terms, right?

Or don't involve alcohol when you're with certain people in your family because we all got messed up families, right?

So, I mean, we really do.

And communication and love, like families love, but they also, it's weird.

Friends have, if you're with the right friends, you have boundaries and you love each other unconditionally, but you don't pass those boundaries.