Lisa Sander

And we want to help others too.

I think that is wonderful.

Yes, menopause.

And I've also, I've had miscarriages I've done in vitro.

Like I can tell, I mean, I've been through, I can't, I just don't talk about it.

I've walked through it.

And I've also walked through the other side of having my faith in God and why I'm here today, doing what I'm doing and having the positive outlook.

And I'm okay with everything that I've been through.

I wouldn't be humbled or appreciate what I have and grateful if I didn't go through the fire.

So I'm okay because God has shown me my story in one

there is a failure or something doesn't go my way, I actually get excited because I'm like, oh, yay, what are you going to show me?

Something's going to happen.

Something better is going to come because I wasn't meant to have that or I took the wrong path.

And he will guide us and show us the right path because when you are on the right path, the doors open and you feel the peace and the love and that you're making the right decision.

Right.

And it doesn't work like that.

I mean, life does not work like that.

And if you are in the same position that you have been for years, it's because God has kept you there because it's not working.

I really, truly believe that.

Kathy, you made a decision at 40 to make a big decision there.