Liz Dzeng

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457 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2020 last heard Dec 2023

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And so, like, I would actually say that like it's not necessarily policies that influence the way that we do things, but perceptions of what our policies are, what we think the policies are, the culture of like how things are done.
And so I asked.
A lot about like ICU admission criteria.
Um, and I think that um so so if I might also put another example um in.
One of the biggest questions I have between the US and the UK is like, you know, in the US, I talk to clinicians and I'm like, well.
Is it ethical to admit a patient who may have a terminal disease and may not necessarily benefit from ICU admission?
And they're like, well, it would be unethical not to talk to the family.
Whereas in the U UK, you ask the same question.
They're like, it would be unethical to subject a patient to ICU level treatment when it's not going to benefit them.
And so I actually think that like, you know, it's the way that we think about these questions.
the ethics that are behind the way that we think about ICU level policies, you know, because in our interviews, we actually talk about like,
Actual policies and then the way we think about
Yeah, and and I again this kind of goes into like, well, what is officially the truth and what is what are we feeling?
And so that's why, like, you know, in the work that I do, I think a lot about how people think about things, our perceptions of the world around us, which then influence our actions.
It's not necessarily what actually is the truth, right?
So like, yeah, people are really fearful of litigation.
Like litigation comes up a lot, but then I ask, like, well, how how
How many lawsuits have you actually been aware of?
Obviously they do happen, but they don't happen as often as we are afraid of them happening.
I think it constrains us like quite a bit.
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