Louis Theroux

In fact, I think it's really striking.

I should say, paint a picture for those people who haven't seen it.

She's quite rather charismatic as many people on the extremes are, certainly in leadership positions.

Her age, her ability to galvanize and win over the cohorts of the people who are inclined to sympathize is extraordinary.

Alas, it's dedicated to this very exclusionary vision of a greater Israel that takes over not just the West Bank and Gaza, as we see in the film, but in fact, I think she'd like parts of Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and so on.

But she'll speak to anyone.

And I think, in fact, when she pushes me...

It's almost, I want to say this hesitantly, she pushes me, I should say, as a way of illustrating when I ask her, you know, is she not troubled by the actions of settler extremists, these people who are on video going about torching, intimidating, attacking, shooting Palestinians?

I said, you've seen this, this is going on all the time.

And she says, well, that's only ever a reaction.

And you're only seeing half the story.

That's in reaction to something probably much more horrific that's taking place.

And for example, if I push you and she pushes me, you're going to push me back.

And then surprise, surprise, I choose not to push her back.

I wish you would push me.

But the other revealing thing, because I met her on three occasions on that trip.

And the first interview is at her house.

And I mentioned to her that moving civilian populations into an area that's under military occupation is considered a war crime, as I understand.

Yeah, I mean, you're very brave.

You go straight out and put it to her.