Louis Theroux

And it's a common topic in the sort of, is it the culture wars or these conversations about free speech, what we can and can't say,

You know, there's a narrative that says, wokeness is killing comedy.

And then there's another that says, bullies online are trolling people and it's not funny and they're pretending to be funny and you shouldn't be allowed to do that, right?

There's this binary narrative.

And of course, it's all more complicated than that.

And I don't even know if we answered any of those questions, but we gave it a good fist.

That could be a little bit like a rude joke right there.

Expect more of that kind of humor.

We recorded this conversation in November this year at Spotify HQ.

It was a Monday morning and Jimmy turned up in a three-piece suit.

I was dressed characteristically, I think, in a blue sweatshirt.

Maybe it was gray.

He looked very sharp.

You don't see people in, I mean, two-piece suits, let alone three.

It was a little, what we call a waistcoat.

And in America, I believe they call a vest.

He was mid-promotion for his new film, Fackham Hall, which is out now.

A spoof on Downton Abbey-style programs in which aristocrats in a stately home cavort and try and get married.

I haven't seen it.

I don't know what to say about that.