Louis Theroux

Yeah, thank you.

I don't know how brave it was, given that she's an older lady.

If we rumbled, I think I could have taken her.

And she laughs.

Her reaction is, she laughs and says, so you are sitting, so you are involved in the war criminal or something like that.

And I said, well, I'm interviewing you.

But in other words, she finds it funny, so negligible, so trivial that it's actually amusing.

The only time you see her lose her composure, because even the push, I would argue, is playful, is intended playfully.

But when I say that actually by the Israeli establishment itself, that even by figures from the security establishment, they view her activities...

as dangerous and terroristic, like that she's been described by Ronan Barr, who I think was the head of Shin Bet.

Yes, she got quite shirty about that.

As a terrorist, then she gets really angry.

And I think it speaks to that thing which you were referring to, the idea that she cares nothing for the judgment of the world, but within her fraternity of the religious Jewish community,

The idea of them pushing back, the idea of them passing judgment on her is deeply offensive because they're, in her eyes, traitors to their own cause.

I don't think I'd be doing the job I did if my heart sank every time I was going to meet someone with views that I found objectionable.

Maybe, what does it say about me?

But I'm not sure.

But I do, there's a part of having a front seat, a front row seat to the extremes of the human experience that I genuinely enjoy.

And I know that sounds, there wasn't as awful as, you know, what's happening in the West Bank is extraordinarily awful.

Like before doing this call, I was thinking about how do I convey