Louis Theroux

What it's like.

And I was thinking about the activities of ICE in America and the fact that last year, two people in Minnesota, I think in Minneapolis, were shot dead by ICE, the Immigration Enforcement Agency.

And I was thinking like, but what's happening in the West Bank is like that day in, day out.

all through the year being done by a military force that isn't even from that place.

Imagine a military force coming in and shooting people in the streets for alleged infractions.

And so the outrage should be commensurate with the awfulness of how that looks.

But having said that, when I was there, there wasn't a day when I woke up when I didn't think,

What a strange and dark privilege it is to be able to document that and to be able to be on a story that feels worthy of the world's attention.

The short version is yes.

I give credit to the BBC for allowing me to make the film.

And it was invigilated and supervised scrupulously, almost infuriatingly so, at every stage.

But not just in terms of doing justice, like absolutely being scrupulously correct about how...

Israeli military actions or settler activities are discussed, but also doing kind of correctly.

There's this sort of gravitational pull towards an Israeli narrative because for whatever reason,

I think allies of Israel's actions have done an amazing job of making their presence felt and making sure that any sort of overstatement, woolly phraseology gets policed, right?

I feel there's this aspect of that that's healthy, would that it were the case on all sides.

But similarly, we have to interrogate that we're doing the same level of care to represent the Palestinian reality.

Truthfully, I got critiqued from both in terms of some people who watched it who were sort of sympathetic to the Israeli kind of way of looking at things.

We're like, oh, well, it's one-sided.

You haven't really...