Louise Ayrey

There's a lack of a trust in the media and politicians and things.

But it's not something which has been happening just recently.

That decline has been ongoing for a while, hasn't it, Jimmy?

Yeah.

Why is that?

Why are we less trusting?

This kind of comes back to, and I think this is a really nice place, a nice positive sort of simple concept to end on.

It comes back to what you were speaking about in the book about assuming good faith.

And this took me a

I'm not sure how many of us do go into an interaction and communicate with people assuming they have good intentions, that we can trust them.

I think in this day and age, sometimes we do assume a little bit more bad faith.

We presume that before we've even begun.

And that makes, of course, a constructive conversation impossible.

It's just a really nice thing to think about.

Jimmy, it's been a delight to talk to you.

I can't thank you enough for your time.

I'm excited.

Jimmy Wells, thank you so much.

Yeah, very much.

Look, the book is really interesting because one minute, one chapter will be all doom and gloom.