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given AI and the notion now that the future of work that we've talked about for so long is finally here.

That said, I wasn't sure whether or how that relates to what the Silicon Valley folks have been undertaking for so long in the pursuit of self-optimization or rings, et cetera, et cetera.

Does it differ or does it rhyme with that more tech-inflected mantra?

Oh, I actually haven't heard that.

Have you guys heard that?

I haven't heard that.

Tomas, thanks so much for joining us.

Thanks so much for listening.

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She's the president and executive director at the Manufacturing Institute.

Turns out there are lots of open jobs in manufacturing and not enough workers to fill the positions.

And nowadays, the work environment is often bright, clean, and safe.

So what's preventing the industry from attracting talent?

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Welcome Brooke, Brian, Tyler, and Carolyn, a big crew today.

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