Luigi Vendittelli

Yeah.

It's like, let's not look at them as there was a problem.

Let's find out what happened.

Right.

There's a huge difference there.

And that's kind of where I used to be like, man, do we really have a lot to learn here as people?

Because here we want to know, what is this?

What is all this?

What's it all about?

Well, we don't know.

We know that something is happening, and these people are experiencing things.

And this was where I was at, where I'm seeing them reliving trauma, a lot of crying, a lot of emotional stuff.

And

We have to look at that no longer as investigators, but also as humans, as a human being.

Basically, it became a thing where it's like, if I do believe this is really happening to you, because I guess you have to have a certain degree of credibility as well in the story.

So yes, I have to kind of assess it to go, you're not a nut job, because there are some, by the way.

Sure.

But once you've passed that, I want to be a safe place for you when I'm talking to you.

I don't want you to think that I'm trying to get information from you and I'll walk away with it.

You give it to me, good.