Luke Caverns
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 May
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I would say the loot is probably like a hobby. It's probably just a little side thing. There's probably many, many more lucrative things than that too.
Yeah. That seems to be, you know, from the limited knowledge I know of it, it just sits in, it just sits in these airplane hangars in Russia. And I think it's, you know,
Yeah, I mean, Putin's a, I wouldn't say, he has a value for history. He knows a lot about history. Certainly he's an expert in Russian history. And I think anybody that's a world leader like that probably has an appreciation for like world history on a grand scale. So I would imagine that he's got resources allocated to the little side hobby of collecting ancient artifacts, you know?
The huge Pollyanna walls, that's really the, whether they are the, whether they're the andesite or the granite or even the basalt, or I'm sorry, whether it's andesite, granite, basalt, or there's even some limestone ones. But then the limestones, they can be different. Like you can have smaller cellular stones. I think that's a big mystery.
With the imperial stones, the ones that are more square, I think it's a... There was a... there's a literary source that comes from the late 1600s. And it's a man who was born in Inca, but he, you know, I guess was colonized or whatever. And he becomes, he learns to speak Spanish and marries a Spanish woman. And he ends up writing about his childhood growing up amongst the Inca.
And he says something in there about he says something in his dialogue about how he would watch the Inca stone masons. And he says something, he's like, he's like through, they had that, you know, they had masterful skill with these, with these metal hammers or metal tools based on unknown centuries of expertise would carve out these square Imperial stones.
So these little square ones he's talking about, he was seeing them do it as a kid. However, you also have contemporaneously with him, you have these other sources that are talking about people trying to – people who are observing the Inca trying to move these giant stones and failing to do it.
And then there are – there were Spaniards that were asking the local Inca, I think at the – I think it's the – the temple of the temple, the moon, um, you know, how did they move these stones? And then the Inca told them, well, no, these stones had always been here. They were built by the gods, something, you know, akin to that.
Um, and so the mystery there is, is the big cellular polygonal stones, you know, how, how were those done? Um, were they melted by, were they softened by acids? You know, I, I don't, I don't agree with the geopolymer thing, but I think that's,
I think that if it were possible to be able to take these acids that, you know, we know that there are these acid deposits down in the Atacama Desert and that there are these Inca or ancient South American highways that lead off. They could be Wari. They could be, you know, the Inca built on top of the highways of the Wari Empire.
The Wari may have been building on top of the highways of an older empire. But you have these roads that go all the way down into the Chilean desert and then just fade into the desert. That's kind of where they end. why do they have this road that's going down there? Well, we know that there are these natural acid deposits that people were mining down there.
Now, the question is, what are they doing with these acids? We don't have a lot of evidence for that, as far as I'm aware. But it seems plausible and interesting to me, the possibility of bringing those back up to what we consider today the Inca realm. And rather than cutting and chiseling the stone away to fit perfectly with each other,
well what if you're able just to soften the edges of stones and then basically you know slide them smush them together and that creates these perfect seams that you see you know in the in these um i'm sure you did this as well but uh you know every time you can get a glimpse of the spaces between the stones almost always the the stones are fitted together all the way to the back you know or at least very very closely and on the out on the outside they're they're perfect
Yeah, so right here. So yeah, I just think that the idea of them being able to soften the edges of the stones and then slide the stones together rather than having to cut them to fit together just would be such an ingenious and much more easy way to be able to construct these. How you lift the stone up 15 or 20 feet up above your head, I really don't know. That's the perennial mystery.
But I agree with you. And I think that the acid idea is just so good. And you see on the exterior right here, it looks like there was acid dripping down the front of it. This front part that doesn't get pressed against another stone, it looks like there's acid that's eaten away at the front of the stone there. What are your thoughts?
Yeah, there may be another example in Cusco, but I know, I'm almost certain that there's a Spanish chronicler that refers to at Tiwanaku, there is acids being used. But, you know, Tiwanaku is basically the blueprint for, or at least archaeologists think is the blueprint for, you know, the later construction that you see at Cusco and Machu Picchu.
But there may be another there may be another literary source that's more relevant to Cusco itself. Ryan, that that photo that you had up there where you were showing the joint of those blocks. I'm sure you noticed that, you know, so there's so there was an earthquake in in, I think, 1695. And then there's another earthquake in 1655.
And then there's another one in like 1995 or something close to that time. um that knocked down the colonial buildings but the but the the ancient buildings are still standing there but while they're doing that it's displacing the joints of the blocks so you can see that top block has slid back and on that bottom stone that outward lip is pointing up so it looks like It's been compressed.
Yeah, it's been compressed and that stone smushed down that softer, acidly dissolved stone that's on the surface and it smushes it down and it makes that perfect crease there. And I think, I honestly think that
for me that's the smoking gun of of that okay this it literally looks like this block has been sitting on top of the other one for thousands of years or however long and and at one point the top of it was soft and it compressed it you know just maybe by half an inch you know i mean that that's what and like i'm not saying that the acid you could dissolve and soften the stone to make it like a cinnamon roll i i just mean it softened it where it was compressed by half an inch you know
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