Luke Caverns
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 May
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That for me though, that lip there is the most telling sign. And then I think that the exterior, the front of the stones, the way that they have been chipped off and the little scoops where it looks like the stone was softened and some of it was pulled away in the process of moving the stone or mounting the stones and putting them on there.
I just think that those two pieces to me just look like the exterior of the stone was softer at one point in time.
Yeah. You know, I think, I think, um, like we were talking last night is, is it's, it's funny. We're reaching in, we're kind of reaching this new stage where it's going to be interesting to see how, how so much of this plays out. Um,
cause we were talking about, I know this sounds like it's not gonna be relevant to what you're saying, but we were talking about last night, Plato's Atlantis and how, um, and how there's not really a consensus or at least maybe like an alternative community. Like what exactly are we talking about?
You know, are we literally talking about Plato's Atlantis or is it more like how you and I say, well, you know, when somebody is referring to Atlantis, it's just a placeholder for this idea that civilization goes back further than, uh, pre-dynastic or dynastic Egypt and Mesopotamia, right? It's just a placeholder word. It's an umbrella term for that. You know, I think that this whole
this whole rejuvenated interest in looking for these archeological mysteries produces a lot of valuable fruit, right? And I think that slowly but surely it's going to and is inspiring new archeologists to come in and just have, even if it's just a 25% more open mind, things are being discovered and you're seeing things in a new light, right?
Rather than like the archeologists that put us on the wall of shame, just shooting it down, you know, there's no mystery, there's no intrigue, there's no romance. And even the idea of romance in archeology is problematic, right? Like that's what they say.
Because that was maybe a year ago or so, I was getting blasted on the wall of shame for saying that, well, you know, I'm not trying to, me personally, I said this publicly, I was like, I'm not trying to sell mystery what I'm doing is just conveying the romance and the wonder of the ancient world. And I'm putting on display how much I love it and how beautiful I find it and intriguing I find it.
Well, then I get blasted for that because no, no, no, romance is something, that's an outdated way of viewing. So everything is just, it's so sterilized. And you and I are being chastised by people who, it feels like they're so jaded by their own, they're so jaded by their own profession. It's like they don't even love their own profession. It's a very weird thing.
And they're making themselves the unnecessary villains in this whole sphere. But to getting what you're saying, yes, I do feel like I do feel like more and more people who would maybe traditionally be placed in the academic sphere are coming around to maybe not saying they're on board with Atlantis or ancient aliens or whatever, you know, but they're saying, Oh, you know what?
That, that is pretty interesting how these blocks were made. It is pretty interesting. Well, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe they were softened. Maybe these people who, you know, overshot the mark by looking for X, Y, and Z because they're seeing the evidence of these softened stones. Well, maybe the softened stones itself is indicative of that there is something more.
So I think there's this middle ground that as time goes on, hopefully everybody kind of comes towards and acknowledging that there is something more to our ancient history.
Yeah, I think there's something worth touching on there. You know, poor Flint ends up being the middle of all this because he debated Graham. But, you know, but yeah, you know, it's a good example. You know, prefacing all this, everybody that I know that's met Flint personally likes him. They say that he's nice, you know, and that he's a nice guy.
Exactly. And personally to me, Flynn has been very nice to me. He gave me a bunch of resources for like Bronze Age archeology. This is almost two years ago when I was expressing to him my interest in Greece. Gave me a bunch of resources, spent a lot of time messaging me that he didn't have to take.
And then I even talked to him about when I, and we'll talk about this later, but this certificate program I'm doing at the University of Greece, he was one of the people that really encouraged me to take that next step. Um, and, um, you know, but I think that when he was on, um, when he was on Danny Jones and Danny brings up the vases and his first response is, yeah, I disagree with them.
It's like, well, Flint, come on, man. Like you're not winning on, you're not winning over anybody by saying that, you know? And I think the thing is, at least if you're going to be involved in the public sphere, you should want to win over people. Right. Um, but you know, maybe that's, I don't know.
I'm not sure what Flint does on his day-to-day job, but maybe that's more so the skill of an orator or a lecturer to know how to talk to people and win them over and be open-minded. I just don't know. But I think that... him saying that just that one thing is maybe indicative of so many people on that side, like people that put you high on the wall of shame.
It's just, you're just, they're just automatically opposed. And there's not a whole reason to be. You don't have to disagree. You and I talk about this and people who are, you know, I don't even love the alternative history word, like the name for this whole space or whatever, Um, I don't really care for that, for that word, but because it's so ranging, right?
Like I'm probably me personally, I'm probably one of the most, maybe the most conservative person in this whole sphere, you know, least willing to say, ah, I don't know about this way out here idea, but I definitely think that these have merit. Um, you know, my view of Atlantis kit might be a lot more dialed down than someone else's, right. But we still get all thrown in the same box. And, um,
So yeah, I just, I don't know. We're just, we're kind of at, we're just really at the forefront of like a new age. And 10 years from now, I think things will be a lot more refined.
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