Luke Kenton
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And during that cross-examination, pointed out several inconsistencies that Kaval had given over the conversation she'd had with the government, including what she'd been wearing on the night that she was attacked.
And it went on and on about the colour of the dress, whether or not she changed her clothes, where she spent the hours after the attack.
And as she was grilled on those inconsistencies, Cavell just snapped back at her and she said, my focus is being drugged and raped, not what she was wearing.
She said, that's what my focus is on.
All these insignificant details to me are just in the past.
And she said that several times over and over again.
And then Gagarin pressed Caval on why she later went to another house with men that she didn't know the same weekend if she'd just been attacked by a man that she didn't know.
And she said, anything would have been better than staying in a house full of rapists.
And it was one of those moments where you could just hear the kind of exhales of shock around the room.
From people in the stands, from journalists around me.
And again, jurors kind of leaning back in their seats in what you can interpret as probably a bit of shock.
And you could tell that really resonated with the jury.
That's right.
Yeah, I think it was an effort, maybe an active effort on their part to maybe shake things up a little bit.
I think the cross examinations before that felt a lot more gentle and maybe they felt like it wasn't working and maybe they needed to inject a bit of life into the defense.
I think for me, the most shocking moment came, it was actually at the end of the first week into the second week of the trial.
So on the last day of the first week, the jury was shown a video with little context given to the courtroom.
But we later learned that that video was related to Oren Alexander's sexual exploitation of a minor charge.
So the video that was played on that day to the jury is alleged to have shown Oren filming himself raping an incapacitated 17-year-old girl with another man in April 2009.
And as that video was being played, the silence in the room was deafening.