Luke O'Neill

And these are the stark numbers that are emerging.

You sent me a quote from Chris Wright, the fossil fuel executive who's now the energy secretary.

He said that calling carbon dioxide a pollutant is just nuts.

The bigger risk, he says, is not too much CO2, but too little.

Yeah, and he's denying the science is the problem here.

The overall problem, Pat, is they're not looking at all the science.

Now, there will be some evidence for what he says, by the way.

You get to a consensus.

The vast consensus is CO2 is bad for the planet, you know, and renewables will help sort of prevent the CO2 emissions.

But you're right on that.

That guy, Pat, he's extremely important.

He's very senior.

So Trump has put him in, you see.

to be the key advisor and then that's his opinion on this that's very very damaging the advisory committee on immunization practices makes uh vaccine recommendations and it was completely reconstituted with duds yep that's right yeah well four four committees were what he's doing if they're disbanding the advisory committees on these things that have been there for decades or they're putting people in there who are vaccine skeptics now that

It's OK to have scepticism.

You know, we like it as scientists.

It's very important.

And one particular guy, again, who's a very senior guy, and his name is Kirk Milhoun.

He said, I don't like established science.

That's his quote.