Luke O'Neill

It's very important.

And one particular guy, again, who's a very senior guy, and his name is Kirk Milhoun.

He said, I don't like established science.

That's his quote.

Now, he's very senior on the Vaccine Advisory Committee to the US government.

Now, you have someone like that in the room.

Other scientists are trying to counter what he says, of course.

But he's a very dominant voice in the whole thing.

And if he can't trust established science, why can't he trust it?

He says, science is what I observe.

Yeah, exactly.

That's right, yes, which goes against the whole principle of science in the first place.

And he cast doubt on the necessity for polio vaccines and measles vaccines.

I mean, this guy's crazy.

It's crazy.

And then he's so powerful.

And of course, what's happening there is they're saying, look, if Trump and RFK Jr.

want their agenda through, they'll stack the committees with people, not just in this area, in many areas.

But in science in particular, if you deny the science, you do it at your peril, is the view.

Now, there's a huge irony here that if they see China as, you know, the great competitor to be the world's number one superpower.