Luke Rodgers
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115 appearances
2 recordings
2 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
Luke Rodgers’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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How do you accidentally take off your beard?
Did you have a bad coat?
Not like that, though. We were way ahead of the curve. I've been there since my 12th year in Tennessee, and Nate's even been there even longer. So we got out when it was still bad, but it isn't like now.
Yeah, year five. This is year five starting here, 2025. We started in 2020.
Yeah, especially about weird stuff.
This is a good question, too. Yeah.
We had Mike on twice before Mike passed away. Yeah. But we had Heizer on twice. I think, Nate, we've talked about this a lot, but his book, Unseen Realm, which we were talking about yesterday, Zach, that you just read a couple weeks ago, was really like a seminal piece of our show and influence on our show. Because I think what Nate was saying is true. We-
We're just trying to talk about and contextualize a lot of the things that people experience and see. Things we're talking about in mainstream media. We kind of hit it at a crazy time because we're two years into the podcast in 2022, and all of a sudden, Congress is having House Oversight Committees on UAPs, right?
And we're already talking about the weird stuff and trying to contextualize it within a biblical worldview, a biblical context. So if we're Christians, how are we to think about the weird stuff? When we look at our Bible, how do we...
Think about some of the things that people would want to gloss over on Sundays, whether it be the conquest of the Promised Land by Joshua, giants, or you go to Genesis 6, which is not a passage you have preached on Sundays a lot, because you have this very odd sons of God saw the daughters of men and saw they were fair, and they took them as wives, and they're Nephilim in the land, and they're after, and these were the men of renown, et cetera, right?
This is Genesis 6, one through four.
Now we just had a conversation about Bigfoot, which is where, this is where our show, like sort of tongue-in-cheek begins, even every episode, right? It's like there's this, Bigfoot's a gateway drug. It's the most seen cryptid in the United States and in the world, and especially it's part of Americana now. But you have so many hundreds,
if not maybe even thousands of encounters, reported encounters a year, and as Heiser said, and I promise this is full circle, but as Mike said, and said on our show, which kind of stuck with us, is that if even one of these is true, is real, right, then it busts the paradigm, and you gotta figure out how you put something this odd into your worldview, And how do you make sense of that?
And I think 2022 with the UAP stuff, we had mainstream media. We had Tucker Carlson. We had a number of others, Joe Rogan, of course, but like these other mainstream voices, right? Because mainstream media is dying. This is a whole other conversation. But things like Sean Ryan's show and Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson are talking about this now, right?
This, this whole UA UFO thing, which was just sort of relegated to wearing tinfoil hats and, and, and all that before. Um,
Right, but that's the paradigm, though, right? This is what we talk about often on the show is that we, you know, the Bible's written to an ancient Near Eastern audience. This is Mike's stick. I mean, this is where he goes, right? And we're 21st century Americans, and we read it like it's written to us, right?
But I think the separation, too, as you do point out, is like we're like post-Enlightenment. Yeah. Cartesian philosophy, academic era, imperial paradigms where we want to measure, it's a scientific thing, and I think sadly in a lot of ways in the church, we sort of, this is just a broad question.
They're everywhere. That's my point. I think we live in a weird way. We've kind of separated the natural from the supernatural in the Western church. That's right. And so this becomes then a paradigm buster to be like, and we talk about in the context of this, what is an extraterrestrial, right? And this is an example. It's something that's not of Earth. So what's an angel then?
Angels not Earth-born. The sons of God sang for joy at the creation of the Earth, is what Job says. So they by definition would be extraterrestrial. And that's a whole rabbit trail to go down, but the idea that we can create context around a lot of the weird, and that our Bibles got a lot of weird stuff in it. that we just don't typically talk about in your.
Yeah, you entertain angels.
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