Luke Rodgers

And I think 2022 with the UAP stuff, we had mainstream media. We had Tucker Carlson. We had a number of others, Joe Rogan, of course, but like these other mainstream voices, right? Because mainstream media is dying. This is a whole other conversation. But things like Sean Ryan's show and Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson are talking about this now, right?

And I think 2022 with the UAP stuff, we had mainstream media. We had Tucker Carlson. We had a number of others, Joe Rogan, of course, but like these other mainstream voices, right? Because mainstream media is dying. This is a whole other conversation. But things like Sean Ryan's show and Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson are talking about this now, right?

This, this whole UA UFO thing, which was just sort of relegated to wearing tinfoil hats and, and, and all that before. Um,

This, this whole UA UFO thing, which was just sort of relegated to wearing tinfoil hats and, and, and all that before. Um,

This, this whole UA UFO thing, which was just sort of relegated to wearing tinfoil hats and, and, and all that before. Um,

Right, but that's the paradigm, though, right? This is what we talk about often on the show is that we, you know, the Bible's written to an ancient Near Eastern audience. This is Mike's stick. I mean, this is where he goes, right? And we're 21st century Americans, and we read it like it's written to us, right?

Right, but that's the paradigm, though, right? This is what we talk about often on the show is that we, you know, the Bible's written to an ancient Near Eastern audience. This is Mike's stick. I mean, this is where he goes, right? And we're 21st century Americans, and we read it like it's written to us, right?

Right, but that's the paradigm, though, right? This is what we talk about often on the show is that we, you know, the Bible's written to an ancient Near Eastern audience. This is Mike's stick. I mean, this is where he goes, right? And we're 21st century Americans, and we read it like it's written to us, right?

But I think the separation, too, as you do point out, is like we're like post-Enlightenment. Yeah. Cartesian philosophy, academic era, imperial paradigms where we want to measure, it's a scientific thing, and I think sadly in a lot of ways in the church, we sort of, this is just a broad question.

But I think the separation, too, as you do point out, is like we're like post-Enlightenment. Yeah. Cartesian philosophy, academic era, imperial paradigms where we want to measure, it's a scientific thing, and I think sadly in a lot of ways in the church, we sort of, this is just a broad question.

But I think the separation, too, as you do point out, is like we're like post-Enlightenment. Yeah. Cartesian philosophy, academic era, imperial paradigms where we want to measure, it's a scientific thing, and I think sadly in a lot of ways in the church, we sort of, this is just a broad question.

They're everywhere. That's my point. I think we live in a weird way. We've kind of separated the natural from the supernatural in the Western church. That's right. And so this becomes then a paradigm buster to be like, and we talk about in the context of this, what is an extraterrestrial, right? And this is an example. It's something that's not of Earth. So what's an angel then?

They're everywhere. That's my point. I think we live in a weird way. We've kind of separated the natural from the supernatural in the Western church. That's right. And so this becomes then a paradigm buster to be like, and we talk about in the context of this, what is an extraterrestrial, right? And this is an example. It's something that's not of Earth. So what's an angel then?

They're everywhere. That's my point. I think we live in a weird way. We've kind of separated the natural from the supernatural in the Western church. That's right. And so this becomes then a paradigm buster to be like, and we talk about in the context of this, what is an extraterrestrial, right? And this is an example. It's something that's not of Earth. So what's an angel then?

Angels not Earth-born. The sons of God sang for joy at the creation of the Earth, is what Job says. So they by definition would be extraterrestrial. And that's a whole rabbit trail to go down, but the idea that we can create context around a lot of the weird, and that our Bibles got a lot of weird stuff in it. that we just don't typically talk about in your.

Angels not Earth-born. The sons of God sang for joy at the creation of the Earth, is what Job says. So they by definition would be extraterrestrial. And that's a whole rabbit trail to go down, but the idea that we can create context around a lot of the weird, and that our Bibles got a lot of weird stuff in it. that we just don't typically talk about in your.

Angels not Earth-born. The sons of God sang for joy at the creation of the Earth, is what Job says. So they by definition would be extraterrestrial. And that's a whole rabbit trail to go down, but the idea that we can create context around a lot of the weird, and that our Bibles got a lot of weird stuff in it. that we just don't typically talk about in your.

Yeah, you entertain angels.

Yeah, you entertain angels.

Yeah, you entertain angels.