Luke Thomas

there was more resistance to that than anything I'd ever faced.

So even prior to all of this, even in a sporting context, this is not something I've ever been especially quiet about.

I did not know that was going on in 2018.

Well, I mean, I don't know how far you want to go back.

There's a question about what...

what is the, you know, what is, uh, the problems that exist between Israel and Palestine go back to 1940s, 1947, 1948.

I mean, these are, and there's a question about, like, what kind of project has been built this entire time, and what does that say about the plight of the Palestinians?

I mean, it's not in any way controversial to say that the Palestinians, for example, in the West Bank

They live under military occupation.

That is a fact.

It is an unequal society in what is ostensibly Palestinian territory.

This did not happen starting in 2020.

This has been happening, you know, for decades preceding that.

And so these conversations about where we go from here and what has happened, they need to start where the story starts.

And that precedes even my birth as well as yours.

So not many living people can really explain that, I guess.

Well, they tried.

They tried.

I mean, they tried in the 70s.

They tried in the 80s.