Luke Thomas

They tried in the 90s.

There have been academics who lived here.

Edward Said was a big one.

He was a professor at Columbia.

He wrote a very famous book, Orientalism.

This is hardly the only work that has been done to this capacity, but they have tried.

It is very interesting to me.

I have never seen the country take Palestinian sovereignty and Palestinian humanity as seriously as I thought that it ever needed to.

And nowhere has that been more true, I think, than in the last two years.

But it's not like the Palestinians haven't tried.

And they've made points too.

If they violently resist, of course, the world comes crashing down on them.

If they peacefully resist, like they did prior to, you know, obviously the tragedy of October 7th, it doesn't work and they are attacked for it.

So, like, what level of resistance to occupation, to military occupation, are they allowed to have?

And I know these are complicated questions that...

Yeah, I mean, I think there's an issue clearly about to what extent we're even allowed to have, to your point, honest debates about, you know, introducing... And we're not talking about, like, you know, conspiracy theory.

I have no interest in that.

And I certainly soundly, affirmatively, and in no way unambiguously reject anti-Semitism in every possible way.

And I do recognize...

that it is real and it is a problem.