Lulu Garcia Navarro

What was the feeling afterwards among the Democratic governors in particular after that exchange?

What was the feeling afterwards among the Democratic governors in particular after that exchange?

Governor, one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you is because I am interested to know how Democratic governors are seeing this moment and how to maneuver in the second Trump era. Until now, you've been not as publicly combative as perhaps other governors have been.

Governor, one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you is because I am interested to know how Democratic governors are seeing this moment and how to maneuver in the second Trump era. Until now, you've been not as publicly combative as perhaps other governors have been.

And I'm wondering if that's because Donald Trump is seemingly more willing to be punitive or is it because his policies have been popular? I mean, what are you weighing when you're thinking about how to talk about this administration?

And I'm wondering if that's because Donald Trump is seemingly more willing to be punitive or is it because his policies have been popular? I mean, what are you weighing when you're thinking about how to talk about this administration?

You, of course, were AG. You have direct experience with this. I am curious if you really do think that how the AGs are operating, if it's the best way. Because, for example, you were accused of politicizing the AG's office by jumping into national issues. It's something that is often said about AGs. Right. Right. It's become this kind of pattern.

You, of course, were AG. You have direct experience with this. I am curious if you really do think that how the AGs are operating, if it's the best way. Because, for example, you were accused of politicizing the AG's office by jumping into national issues. It's something that is often said about AGs. Right. Right. It's become this kind of pattern.

And I'm curious, do you think that AG should be getting in these federal fights so consistently?

And I'm curious, do you think that AG should be getting in these federal fights so consistently?

Then you saw Republicans do the same, obviously, during the Biden administration. And they would argue that they were doing the same thing.

Then you saw Republicans do the same, obviously, during the Biden administration. And they would argue that they were doing the same thing.

I was about to say, are you confident that the courts can actually constrain this administration?

I was about to say, are you confident that the courts can actually constrain this administration?

I did seem to catch Democrats by surprise. I mean, we have seen Democrats take a beat and have trouble coming to an agreement about what kind of resistance or opposition they're going to pose. You've talked a little bit about what's happening publicly.

I did seem to catch Democrats by surprise. I mean, we have seen Democrats take a beat and have trouble coming to an agreement about what kind of resistance or opposition they're going to pose. You've talked a little bit about what's happening publicly.

I'm curious what has been happening privately, because one of my colleagues reported that you were part of a group of Democratic governors in January who privately urged Senator Chuck Schumer to to fight harder or at least differently against Trump. And I'm curious, like, what you were wanting to see that you weren't seeing.

I'm curious what has been happening privately, because one of my colleagues reported that you were part of a group of Democratic governors in January who privately urged Senator Chuck Schumer to to fight harder or at least differently against Trump. And I'm curious, like, what you were wanting to see that you weren't seeing.

Do you think the leadership in Congress is the right leadership to enact what you're envisioning?

Do you think the leadership in Congress is the right leadership to enact what you're envisioning?