Lulu Garcia Navarro

He doesn't seem terribly interested in the work of diplomacy. I'm curious both how you would define that foreign policy philosophy and what you think of that approach.

He doesn't seem terribly interested in the work of diplomacy. I'm curious both how you would define that foreign policy philosophy and what you think of that approach.

I mean, it's not that he wants to stand back. It's that he uses other methods to make countries bend to America's will. You're seeing some of these actions.

I mean, it's not that he wants to stand back. It's that he uses other methods to make countries bend to America's will. You're seeing some of these actions.

So do you think then that President-elect Trump's plan to place heavy tariffs on Chinese goods up to possibly 60 percent blanket tariffs, also to place tariffs on our allies, Canada and other countries, is that misguided? Yeah.

So do you think then that President-elect Trump's plan to place heavy tariffs on Chinese goods up to possibly 60 percent blanket tariffs, also to place tariffs on our allies, Canada and other countries, is that misguided? Yeah.

Yes, the Biden administration had their own.

Yes, the Biden administration had their own.

Just one last question on China. You know, one of the things that I have been curious about is – How the world sees the whiplash of our foreign policy just changing from one administration to the other so dramatically. You know, how do you think China, for example, sees our increasingly inconsistent foreign policy during the last decade that has seemed to just go from one extreme to the other?

Just one last question on China. You know, one of the things that I have been curious about is – How the world sees the whiplash of our foreign policy just changing from one administration to the other so dramatically. You know, how do you think China, for example, sees our increasingly inconsistent foreign policy during the last decade that has seemed to just go from one extreme to the other?

Are they exploiting it or are they concerned about it?

Are they exploiting it or are they concerned about it?

After the break, I talk with Secretary Blinken about the war in Gaza.

After the break, I talk with Secretary Blinken about the war in Gaza.

I do want to turn to what has become the defining crisis of this era, which is the conflict in Gaza. You came in thinking you could broker a historic agreement between Saudi Arabia and Israel. And then Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th with the horrific results which we saw. And Israel's response has been extreme. The latest UN figures put the Palestinian death toll at 45,000.

I do want to turn to what has become the defining crisis of this era, which is the conflict in Gaza. You came in thinking you could broker a historic agreement between Saudi Arabia and Israel. And then Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th with the horrific results which we saw. And Israel's response has been extreme. The latest UN figures put the Palestinian death toll at 45,000.

Over 90% of Gaza's population is now displaced. The population is starving. All hospitals have been destroyed. In November, a UN committee released a report that found Israel's warfare practices, quote, "...consistent with the characteristics of genocide." I know you don't agree with that estimation, but do you believe that Israel's actions have been consistent with the rules of war?

Over 90% of Gaza's population is now displaced. The population is starving. All hospitals have been destroyed. In November, a UN committee released a report that found Israel's warfare practices, quote, "...consistent with the characteristics of genocide." I know you don't agree with that estimation, but do you believe that Israel's actions have been consistent with the rules of war?

While destroying the territory. I mean, there's huge suffering.

While destroying the territory. I mean, there's huge suffering.