Lulu Garcia Navarro
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You know, a lot is being written now about the sober curious trend and And I guess this is the other side of the spectrum, which is not medical. It's cultural. But do you actually see those shifts as producing long term results or are they just fads?
That's interesting, the idea that we're retreating from real-world dopamine fixes to digital-world dopamine fixes.
I mean, big question. Are we just playing whack-a-mole with our addictions?
Let me break this down for a moment to see if I understand what you're saying, which is that modern life requires us to just constantly think about ourselves and be on display. And the use of these ways to take us out of ourselves is increasing because we're constantly narcissistically thinking about ourselves. Is that right?
But this is weird for a therapist to say because so much of our culture is now inundated with this Yes, it's true.
This naturally, I think, leads us to how we break the cycle of addiction. For me, it's something that I think about a lot simply because my sister died of her addiction and it was one of the catalysts for making me stop drinking. And it's the two different paths. I took sobriety and she, with a lifetime of struggle of trying to be sober, it ended up defeating her and she lost her life.
What have you learned about why some people can do it and others can't?
I do wonder what made you become an addiction specialist. I mean, was there a reason or was it just something that you were interested in?
So we've mostly talked about forms of addiction that have obvious negative consequences in a person's life. But I also, you know, do wonder about what we say we can become addicted to. You know, when we started talking, you used this example of struggling with romantic novels. I'm also a big fan, by the way. But, you know, is there something trivializing about calling stuff like that an addiction?
Because you can die from alcoholism, but you can't die from reading romanticism.
Exactly. So we've been just having this very wide-ranging conversation about all sorts of different types of addiction and all the struggles that we have. And I mean, I don't want to land this on you, but what are we supposed to do?
You know, that is something that I, in my own personal journey, did. But the other side of this, of course, is that while I'm happier and healthier, I also sometimes wonder if I'm becoming an amoeba. You know, that all this abstinence is just making me into, you know, someone who is always saying no to dopamine and to pleasure. Do you hear that concern often?
That's Dr. Anna Lembke. She's the author of Dopamine Nation. This conversation was produced by Seth Kelly. It was edited by Annabelle Bacon, mixing by Sophia Landman. Original music by Marian Lizano. Photography by Devin Yalkin. Our senior booker is Priya Matthew and Wyatt Orme is our producer. Our executive producer is Alison Benedict.
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I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro, and this is The Interview from The New York Times.
We're essentially struggling with endemic narcissism. where our culture is demanding that we focus on ourselves so much that what it's creating is this deep need to escape ourselves.
The Daily · 'The Interview': Antony Blinken Insists He and Biden Made the Right Calls · 4 Jan 2025
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From The New York Times, this is The Interview. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. Four years ago, after the tumultuous first Trump administration, President Biden came into office promising to rebuild old alliances and defend democracy. The man tasked with doing that on the world stage was Secretary of State Antony Blinken, a longtime diplomat who'd worked with the president for decades.
The message to America's allies and enemies alike was that a new era of stability was at hand. Instead, the world blew up. Secretary Blinken was beset by an escalating series of international crises almost from the beginning, from the Afghanistan withdrawal to Russia's invasion of Ukraine to Hamas's attack on Israel and the subsequent war in Gaza and conflict in the wider Middle East.
All the while, Blinken championed this promise of robust American diplomacy to solve the world's many problems. But as the Biden administration winds down, those conflicts around the world rage on. A new Trump administration is set to retreat from the very alliances and institutions Blinken championed. And what role America will play in the changing global order is an open question.
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