Maddie Levine-Wolf
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125 appearances
10 recordings
1 series
first heard Feb 2024
last heard Aug 2025
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Yeah. So let me do a follow-up question with you. With all the things that you said, how do we create trusted sources? Because I think that there are so many different things that are happening. Where do you go? What tips do you have for us as a community to create more trusted sources?
I agree with you that barbers are, and barbers and beauticians are really effective in certain communities. I always talk about barbers are, is the one group of people that allow a man to touch him intimately in public. Yeah. And they'll tell... They'll tell things that they won't tell their partners. You know what I mean? So I agree with you.
And if you know that and you know how to work with that, then you're able to really make a difference in terms of, as you just talked about, the trusted messengers. So, yeah, I agree with you. And thank you for doing that shout-out to Barbers.
This has been phenomenal. It's been a pleasure to finally put a name and a face together. And definitely as a health leader, you definitely are setting the standard. At least for me as a community member, I love hearing from people like you who can break down these complicated issues in, in, in a, in a simple, understandable, and also doable way.
And so, uh, again, I want to just thank you very much.
Very, very last thoughts.
Yeah, so I, I lost both of my maternal grandparents, my grandmother about 15 years ago now, and my grandfather about five years ago, I've also lost a few family pets, which is definitely a different, still a deep grief, but, you know, different. In terms of my grandparents, I think one of the things that I'm constantly thinking about in terms of
mourning a death and grieving a loss is how to process my own grief and also hold space for my family members processing their grief too. So for example, you know, my maternal grandparents, obviously my mom lost both of her parents. When my grandmother died, my mom was in her forties, which is really young to lose a parent. And obviously that's been
a huge loss and my mom thinks about it every day. And so how do I process the loss of my own, of my own grandparents while also, you know, being there to support my mom and her everlasting grief. So, um, there's a lot of grief to hold and a lot of different capacities. So that's something that I'm kind of always navigating too. Um, so yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's like Barry said, it never stops.
And it's interesting. Everyone's process is different. But I'm looking forward to kind of diving in and talking more about different traditions around rituals and burials. So, yeah.
Yeah, so I'm also Jewish. So a lot of what Barry said is also how my family mourns and grieves, especially in the immediate aftermath of death. And I always found the Shiva tradition relatively uplifting. I feel like at least in my family or my extended family, the sitting Shiva period was always more of like a celebration of life. which I feel like is really lovely.
And then also on a personal note, I started working with a rabbi several months ago, about a year ago, just to kind of like learn more about my own understanding of Judaism and dive into kind of like my own spirituality. And one of the things we're really focused on is
unpacking kind of like mourning and death and mortality within Judaism so um you know that's obviously relevant to this episode so just continuing to kind of learn like how Judaism really looks at life um and the the rituals after death and um and you know all all that kind of stuff so um you know this is kind of just propelling that conversation in my mind.
i've just always thought that's kind of funny that we sit there and say beautiful things but the person doesn't get to hear them um so i've actually sorry i was just gonna say really good i've actually seen that in movies sheridan and it is kind of like i think for what we culturally do around death and loss i think it is somewhat of like a radical idea but i definitely i i
I hear you, and I think, yeah, that's something I've thought about too. That's a really interesting idea, so I support you. Thank you.
maddie any any thoughts on the verbal aspects or the symbolic aspects that we all kind of deal with any any ideas on that i think that um the verbal is always difficult i mean i i feel like um i even though i've experienced loss myself and i it's it's always just hard to know what the right thing to say is um
even if, you know, it's not your first time supporting someone in their own loss, um, because you never know what, yeah, you never know what the right thing to say is. Um, you never want to say something that, you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry if your loss is kind of like a standard, um, and you never want it to sound like inauthentic because it's said so often.
And, you know, um, so I think for me, it's just a matter of like, um, telling the person, friend, family member that I'm here for them if they need anything. But it can be really difficult because like we already talked about, you know, everyone kind of processes and mourns and grieves in a different way. So yeah, I just, I think it's, it's challenging.
And if anyone else like knows the right thing to say, please tell me, but I feel like it's, you know, it's, it's, it's sad and it's difficult. And yeah, I feel like there's no, there's no one perfect thing that's going to make it better.
It's not a big deal. I don't have that much. I don't have articulate concluding thoughts. So I just wanted to leave it with everyone else's concluding thoughts.
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