Maggie Freleng
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first heard Jun 2025
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He left her home around 10 p.m., telling her he needed to go take care of his job. The next day, Michael sent her an email that the job had failed, but he might be back in a few days. Authorities would state that the interaction with his ex-wife in the days leading up to October 28th were very strange and may have been a failed first attempt by Michael to harm Mark.
In the aftermath of Mark's death, we now know that Michael had a close call with authorities on the afternoon of October 28th. When Michael moved Mark's remains to his SUV, he cut through the private property of a nearby residence.
The owners of the property saw a man moving things from a white station wagon to a black SUV, and one of the women stated she felt the men may have been moving a body, so the women called authorities. Around 12.30 p.m., the police located the SUV and pulled Michael over to question him about trespassing.
The officer says he denied it, claiming he was making a phone call, but he looked nervous and it looks like his back seat was filled with camping gear. But due to the information at the time, the officer didn't suspect anything out of the ordinary. It wasn't until the following morning that authorities would respond to Mark's home and find the bloody scene.
After his close call with police, Michael called his ex-wife Jennifer and asked her to meet him at a nearby Starbucks. Jennifer would later state that when Michael arrived, he looked disheveled, had a rust-colored stain on his jeans, and asked if she knew where he could find some bleach. The two drove to the beach and when they arrived, Michael continued acting strange.
At one point, he disappeared for 20 minutes to use the bathroom. And when he came back, he confided in her that he was in trouble. He told Jennifer that he had been pulled over earlier and said if they knew what was in his car, he would have been arrested and would go away for a long time.
Understandably, Jennifer didn't know what to make of all this and she became scared so she didn't ask any more questions. With the revelation of these additional details, authorities felt Michael's account of things wasn't holding weight. But did this additional information point to Michael's guilt? Ultimately, it would be up to a jury to decide. Here's Rob with how the trial unfolded.
So did Michael Oakes act in self-defense or was this a personal vendetta against Mark? When we come back, we'll bring you the rest of my discussion with Peter Van Sant.
And now here's John with this week's critical missing case.
All right, we're back. You've now heard the story of the deadly love triangle between Michael, Linda, and Mark. A tragic, avoidable death that doesn't leave a whodunit question. We know Michael killed Mark, but is there more to this story? That brings us to Peter Van Sant's new podcast, Trained to Kill. Peter, backing up, in 2011, you did a two-part series for 48 hours during Michael's trial.
And now you've come back over a decade later to do it in podcast format. And one of the reasons I heard you say is that you wanted to do this because you have more room in the podcast to explore the human nature of what happened.
I am so curious about your opinions. And I wasn't going to ask, but I'm glad you said that because I'm so curious.
Well, so that brings me to two questions I have. I wanted to ask you, have you ever turned the lens on yourself and thought, am I capable of these things, knowing how level-headed and smart and covering a million of these stories? Have you thought that? Are you capable of some of these things you've seen these characters get into?
Besides your connection to Seattle and knowing a lot of these places and backdrops, why come back to this story? I'm sure there's many you could come to, and this one is seemingly closed. Michael's in prison. So why come back to it?
Linda, maybe? Yeah.
I do find it fascinating that Michael will not say where the body is. You know, he said where he put it, quote, I'm doing air quotes, but it's not there.
If the body is found, can they resentence him? Like, why won't he say where it is?
So, Peter, where can folks find the podcast? What is it called? Tell us about it. Where can we go?
So what is next for you? You have this podcast out, Trained to Kill. We are also excited to listen.
Plug the book. What's it called?
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