Mai Pundak

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385 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 7 Jul

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The Ezra Klein Show · A Radical Vision for Israelis and Palestinians · 7 Jul 2026 podcast

The other thing that I'll say is that what I think is...

exceptionally meaningful with the land for all's proposition is that it tackles the motivations of the conflict.

Now, this does not mean that we're going to sign an agreement and everything will be perfect.

But if you have that end game clear and if you have answered the collective needs of both people, you take away the justification, the normalization of conflict and violence.

I think that is the biggest new thing that we offer.

But that's exactly the opposite.

It's exactly the opposite.

So we're not going to sign an agreement and open the borders.

That is not the plan.

We will absolutely have to go through a long process, a long process.

And again, that has been done in other places with bloodier conflicts.

So we have to let go of the fact that it's impossible.

But the truth is that we have left room for spoilers.

And we have experienced the fallout of previous negotiations because there has never been a commitment to a clear endgame.

So during the Oslo Accords, there was steps.

There was a process.

But at no point did Israel say there will be, at the end of this process, a Palestinian sovereign independent state.

Never.

And if you don't have that commitment to the end game, then you leave room for spoilers.

Palestinians are never going to buy that anymore.

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