Mai Pundak

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385 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 7 Jul

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The Ezra Klein Show · A Radical Vision for Israelis and Palestinians · 7 Jul 2026 podcast

I was like, OK, that's just not good enough.

We have to reimagine a two-state solution that can work or a new vision that will actually work.

be able to be pragmatic and practical work, but also organize and excite Palestinians and Israelis.

And I'll just say one more thing about that kind of transformation for me.

Coming from a human rights background, I wanted to be a human rights lawyer to end the occupation.

And I understand that sounds a little naive today.

And I still think that Israelis who are doing that work are

And this is the most important work to be done.

But at the same time, we haven't politically seen Palestinians as equal.

Politically.

We can maybe save them.

We can control them.

There's a dynamic of that power dynamic always underneath.

And for me, the positionality of realizing in my skin that until Rola and the Palestinian people are safe and free,

We will never be free and liberated and safe either.

Our security is dependent on each other.

Can I say something about the trust?

I think that's a very, as an Israeli, I think that's an important question for us to deal with.

What is the alternative?

The alternative right now is either continuing in the footsteps of this government, which is to destroy the Palestinian peoplehood, or a fake status quo.

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