Malcolm Keating

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4,319 appearances 26 recordings 1 series first heard Sep 2019 last heard Sep 2024

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What you think, this is a little outside of the realm of your book, but what you think Buddhist practitioners, how they understood this debate.
So this debate that all this time that Chandrakirti is engaging in, right, and criticizing Yogacara for these purposes.
How were sort of other Buddhist practitioners understanding it?
What was the point of this?
If at the end of the day, in some sense, as Taranatha's account maybe suggests, as you say, it's undecided whether the Majjamaka or the Yogacaran is sort of victorious.
There's something maybe beyond that debate.
And so we wouldn't want to then say, well, maybe the world is in the mind of a god and has a sort of...
further further step that would be to to endorse a survival or a reification or substantial uh nature that would be out of bounds as well i would imagine yeah that's right yeah that's right yeah good okay so um
Let's go back then in the time that we have to the debate about how to have debates.
You mentioned this a little bit, the discussion of Svet Frantika and Prasangika that is picked up in Tibetan doxography later.
I'm just curious, in terms of Chandra Kirti's goals, you say he's aiming to not have a debate, right?
He says this in the outset of the book.
But in some sense, how to debate is a major theme in the text.
I guess I'm wondering how you're understanding the relationship between the kind of
internal debates that we might have with ourselves and the kind of external debates that Buddhists were having at the time with other thinkers.
Is there a sense of those external debates and internal debates having the same kind of ethical and soteriological aims that you're really intending to
be compassionate towards your debater in some sense, in a right approach to debate, that the right sort of approach to debate or a useful approach to debate would be really to engage in a kind of vitanda, as Nayakas would put it, only criticizing your opponent, and that that should be what's happening inside of you.
I'm just a little curious about the internal, external aspect of this here, because it seems like there's two modes of debate kind of going on.
Well, I have one last question picking up on this theme of reading.
This is a guidebook.
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