Malcolm Turnbull
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard 28 Jun
Malcolm Turnbull’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And gosh, they fought hard too.
I mean, we went to the Court of Appeal two or three times just on the interlocutory stages, you know, on the interrogatories and discovery.
And they went all the way to the High Court.
But it was a great adventure.
Forty years ago this year, by the way.
Forty years ago this year.
Okay.
Well, we're in a good position now because a lot of this stuff has now been published in the public records office.
But the backstory was that Wright worked for MI5.
He was, you know, essentially a mole hunter and he was a technical guy originally, you know, he was bugging embassies and bugging hotels and so forth.
And he spent a lot of time, for example, debriefing Anthony Blunt and Cairncross, you know, who were two of the Cambridge Five,
But he did develop an obsession, some might say an unhealthy obsession, that the one-time head of MI5, a guy called Roger Hollis, was also a Soviet agent.
Anyway, this stuff about Hollis, he'd been agitating about this.
By this stage, he's retired.
He was put in touch with Chapman Pincher.
He, you'd remember, was a very conservative journalist who worked for papers like the Express and the Mail and so forth and wrote about espionage and was like an official conduit for the security agencies.
And he was put in touch with Pinscher, and Pinscher wrote a book about it called Their Trade is Treachery, which got all the Hollis stuff out in the public domain.
And then he wrote a second book called Too Secret Too Long, which did the same.
And so when Wright wanted to publish his book, in fact, pretty much everything in it had already been published by Pinscher.
So one of our arguments was, many arguments, but one of the arguments was, this stuff is not confidential anymore.
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