Malcolm Turnbull
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard 28 Jun
Malcolm Turnbull’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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I mean, we've always understood, like when I made the decision or my government made the decision to ban Chinese vendors from 5G in Australia, and we were way ahead of the UK on that.
And in fact, we're ahead of the Americans.
It's another story.
And this was for technical reasons, not resourcing the political decision.
We were not accusing Huawei of engaging in espionage or doing anything wrong at all.
Nothing like that.
But we just took the view this was a very big capability that Chinese would have in Australia.
And can we assume that Beijing's intent towards us would always be benign?
Well, clearly not.
But we always made that assumption with the Americans.
And so this is the thing.
I mean, I think a lot of us, when we're dealing with America under Trump,
are struggling to come to terms, not with an apocalyptic portrayal or scenario, but with the reality of what he's actually saying.
Cynics used to say, oh, the Americans talk about democracy and freedom, but they don't actually believe it.
They're just out for themselves.
And you can argue about that.
Trump actually says, I am out for myself.
America first.
And so, you know, so if there is a, if you're sitting around the cabinet table in London today and somebody says, is there a risk?
We have critical services depended on an American LLM.
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