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Marc Lynch

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304 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And I'm not just worried about what happens to Iran.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I'm worried about what happens to us.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I mean, when you're threatening something on the scale of genocide, I am terrified that we as citizens in what's supposed to be the greatest democracy are having things done in our name over which we have absolutely no control on a scale that offends us when anybody else in the world does it.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And so that's why I think it's a terrifying moment.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

What do you make of that?

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Yes, and I think this is the consequence of lack of accountability, because, you know, this is what Lapid said, and it's good that you started it, because he's supposed to be much more moderate.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But if you listen to the defense minister, who's actually making the decisions,

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

He says, basically, we're going to do what we did in Gaza.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

We're going to do what we did in Rafah.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So in essence, if we have to defend ourselves, everything is legitimate.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

There are no rules of law.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

There is no human rights.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

There's no difference between civilian and combatant.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I say that literally because obviously you're uprooting entire villages and you're actually destroying the homes to make sure they don't return and destroying the infrastructure, following the book in Gaza, including health institutions and hospitals.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

so that the people don't have an infrastructure to service them.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And even going more than that, because now they're calling on non-Shia Lebanese, whether they're Christian or Sunni or Druze, not to host Shia, because essentially it's all the same.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Shia, therefore...

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

It's just like Palestinian, therefore Hamas.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Gazan, therefore Hamas.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Now Shia, therefore Hezbollah.