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Marc Lynch

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The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

the biggest anti-American force in the Middle East.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I think that's frightening to me.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I think certainly the Iranian state will be set back by many years.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

It is now.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But if by that we mean then there will be capitulation by Iran or necessarily that the state will disintegrate.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I mean, it could.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Obviously, none of us would know.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

As Mark said, I think disintegration would be the worst thing for the international community, except perhaps for Israel.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But it would be certainly the worst thing for America's Arab allies.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

It would be the worst thing for the U.S.,

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So what is really obvious is that they've been planning for this war, the Iranians, unlike us.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

They've been planning it perhaps for decades.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And I would be shocked if they didn't think that at least the Israelis, they may not know where Trump will go, would want to go after their infrastructure, that they had not planned for these contingencies, that they don't have additional surprises in their sleeve.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I actually expect that they will

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

go further than they have gone.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But that's what makes it unpredictable.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And I think right now it's fluid.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So I think that probably we don't know where Trump is getting his assessment.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

We don't know what he's expecting.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So I'm terrified, not so much by what might happen to the regime, who cares, what might happen to the people of Iran.