Mariana van Zeller

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4,087 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard Jan 2024 last heard 24 Mar

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So we do.

And then that night, we kind of like left the hotel without telling our government minder and went to good Vietnamese food.

And there we are.

And who shows up but the tailor.

And he's sitting at a table right next to us.

And he's like, that's this one, Dan.

And this is like a big town with lots of restaurants.

And we're thinking, the tailor is also a spy.

Tinkter, tailor.

What's that thing?

Yeah.

We don't know.

I mean, it could be a level of paranoia.

It could be actually real.

Yeah, some of the smaller villages.

And some of them, trafficking organizations that work there, believe that a lot of them were in fact kidnapped and taken to China.

Some of them take jobs in big cities and don't come back, but it's still an enormous number.

And you have families all over Vietnam looking for their daughters, having no idea what happened to them.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

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