Marina Hyde

I think you're never, you're completely unoptimised.

Yeah.

You're truly like giving your data to the man the entire time, literally every form of possible piece of data you're giving it to them.

It should never pass the conversation at any point.

Yeah.

I'm appalled I've even mentioned it on this podcast, but really, no.

I mean, I just don't think the Whoop app is anything like the Great Gatsby, so I don't really want to see it compared to the Great Literature.

No, no.

It's not.

It's really all of these things.

I mean, it's, you know, it's just a fancy watch.

Which you've had to stop for your health.

And please don't compete over it.

It's just the last refuge of life.

But actually, it's really interesting, just the complete wholesale abandonment of creation of intimacy to these platforms is really interesting.

Actually, I mean, you could do a very long series on that.

Thank you so much for that glimpse into our collective.

Very good.

Okay, well, we'll await the Treaty of Versailles of all of this.

I love that podcast.