Marina Hyde

And it's this thing that if you can control your story, and this would be

a really good way of doing it.

It doesn't matter if you have some huge audience.

It's that they are influenced dense.

All the important people are listening to your thing and it doesn't matter that not millions of people are listening to Rogan or something like that.

It's the people who are listening to this and you're speaking via these people directly to them.

Being able to communicate in that way is very interesting.

There has been a whole sort of rush to acquire podcasts.

Even Goldhanger has taken investment from the churning group.

What they're trying to buy into more and more is networks of podcasts or podcasts that have some specific reach that is beyond one person stands or falls on this.

What they want to buy into is podcasts.

is community and the idea that they've got very, very, very engaged.

However, it doesn't have to be enormous, but if they're significant, that community is becoming the most desirable asset.

But somehow it's more intimate and more engaged than television ever was.

They think they can sell the audience things.

That's what ultimately they want.

They want to sell a very engaged community things.

He's worse than Elon and Zuckerberg.

I just think he's becoming my worst one.

It's so competitively fought, the worst tech bro, and he's it.