Marina Hyde

I mean, the thing about these things is I think if they must exist or they must do them, they cannot and must not pass for conversation.

I don't want to hear about anybody's – it's like hearing about someone's dreams.

I would literally rather hear about your dreams or how much your four-year-old child is gifted and talented and a genius than I would what your sleep score is.

It should be something slightly shameful that you do in private.

It's a private activity, right?

Like overpaying for Nido, the childhood crates, or watching lots of kissing montages from Heated Rivalry on YouTube.

You shouldn't talk about it.

You shouldn't talk about it if you do it.

Exactly.

It's disgusting.

Don't talk about it in public.

So his tracker.

But I did think it destabilised him so much that it reminded me a little bit of a modern version of the Twits.

If you didn't like him and you worked for him, you worked at it and you could hack Stephen Bartlett's wearable, you could send him into an absolute tailspin, couldn't you?

Because you could just slightly alter the vitals and he would go into an absolute tailspin.

Yeah.

Everyone, though, in other podcastings, the rest of the podcasting sphere, has had something to say.

In a way, I'm going to say it if no one else will.

This is exactly how World War I started, right?

Yes, finally.