Mark Abbott

Yeah, and then the other thing is we now have a strategic partnership with Vistage.

There's a group called Exit Planning Institute that has over 5,000 coaches that we have.

What kickback do you pay them?

Beg your pardon?

We're just sponsors for Vistage, so we don't kick them anything.

No revenue share?

No revenue share.

And with regard to EPI, we do have a revenue share.

I'm smiling.

It's between 10 and 20%.

I'm not exactly, I don't have that in my head.

About $2,500.

Okay, $2,500.

And I should have mentioned earlier, we have 13,300 companies now running on 90 and several hundred thousand people in those companies.

Our business is about helping people build great companies.

And the reality is, is every single one of you out here has an operating system.

The question is, what kind of operating system do you have?

There are about five operating system types that are out there if you think about it.

First of all, when you start a company, you've got this thing called an accidental operating system, right?

So you've got papers and Excel and PowerPoints, and you're just trying to get your act together.