Mark Agnon
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236 appearances
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first heard Jun 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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And so once you start going to therapy, do things kind of start to click in place? Do you start to kind of see how the behavior was connected to the trauma?
Does it blow your mind?
you know running running running running running just everything you know like um instead of healing you know and uh so i've just been on a healing journey man yeah and that initial trauma just creates more trauma i wonder if there's people listening to this that have never dealt with people who have been you know had these kinds of childhood abuse stories
that it's not necessarily oh everything is because of that one event it's that that one event caused everything and that that one event caused the lack of intimacy with a relationship and then the lack of intimacy with relationship then caused your next relation you you endured trauma from that first relationship and then your next relationship you still had baggage from the first one and then that created more baggage and it all compounds and it creates this debt of trauma
that until you start to address the initial thing, continues to build on itself. And it just creates this ripple throughout your entire life that, I mean, is the biggest suffocation of all.
And they're just like, this is normal to me. I've heard it said that we seek the pain that we feel most comfortable with.
And that this, you know, if you had an abusive father, for example, like it's possible that the male relationships you emulate later have that same pain cycle that you had, you know, early in childhood and without even being cognizant that, oh, I'm replicating these things that I experienced early on. And it's not your fault that these things happen to you or that you were born to the situation.
You're the victim of it, but you have the ability and the freedom to break yourself from these cycles. And that's a very liberating feeling. But to be stuck in it is just, without knowing is, I mean, it's a different type of hell.
So when you're in prison and people look at your paperwork and they see what you're in for, are they cool with it?
So there was some respect in the prison for- Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you gotta wonder if there's an element. I think this is actually coming up a little bit now, like within rap music. But so many people within impoverished, poor communities, many of them black and brown, that get sexually abused never talk about it.
And so I wonder how many of these guys in prison, some of like, you know, the toughest dudes you can imagine, they got sexually abused as kids.
And even in prison, never brought it up. Maybe they lived lives of, you know, crime, drugs, gang violence.
Right. Yeah. So at this, the Newark prison, you serve... How many years there?
And then once you're released, how do you start putting your life back together?
What was the reaction from the Senate committee when you gave your testimony?
Um, that's a good pitch. Yeah.
And how did it feel to be now praying and just to be free?
I mean, the story has so much, it's crazy that it's real life.
But the duality is so interesting. You have this evil cop who abuses you. But then you have this great cop that gives you another chance at life and tells you to plead the fifth and gets you a lawyer. And you have these, you know, evil priests that, you know, abuse people like people, you know, your family and, you know, different people in the world.
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