Mark Bouris

No, but that's the point.

They're not consulting with people like you or me or anybody.

And you're still doing it, like me.

But what do you feel?

Because I get quite annoyed then when I see Paul Keating come up and say, the people like you and me who are saying these things, well, we're the typical rich older people who have, I can't remember his words, but we've basically been engorging ourselves on the luxury of all these various capital gains, tax discounts, et cetera.

Like you, I come from nothing.

And I've battled every minute of every day and I'm still doing it in my businesses.

I mean, I've got thousands of people who work for me and I feel responsible for every one of them.

Literally every one of them.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah, we don't actually have a meeting with us.

They should come out.

That's the problem.

The problem is the politicians who are formulating all these sort of policies, which they probably think are really important ideologically, but they're making decisions based on ideology, which doesn't have any contact or any relevance to actually the reality.

Reality is the important part here.

Maybe that's got something to do with the fact that they don't want to go to an election and do anything else down the track.

Or so they're going to get asked about these things.

And maybe they're thinking there's enough time between here and the date of the next election that these things might get forgotten about.

And it could be a miscalculation, but we will forget about it.