Mark Bouris

And I don't think it's going to happen.

Not that old, mate.

I've got one final question, just slightly lighter, slightly lighter, but equally inspirational and motivational for people who are listening.

If you look back at your career, what do you think – and it's probably hard to do – what is one of the greatest milestones that you have ever encountered?

There are things in life that just keep delivering.

The more time goes on, the more you appreciate them.

75 years of Penfold's Grange.

Once tasted, never forgotten.

Let's keep going.

Oh, wow.

That would have been extremely satisfying.

Jerry Harvey told me exactly the same thing one day.

He said to me that what he fears most is something, what's going to happen, that he doesn't even know what's going to happen.

It could just take everything away.

And, you know, someone as successful as he's been, and by the way, I think the same way.

Because when you've come from nothing, you always think something's going to happen.

Something's going to come and take it all away.

Naomi Simpson, thanks.

Your only experience is business, but importantly, thanks for sharing your personal experience with our audience today.

It's been really good, really great to catch up with you again.