Mark Bouris

Beyond that and beyond biology, like into chemistry, then to physics and beyond computing, quantum computing even.

And the big discussion right now is around consciousness.

A big discussion is around consciousness.

And telepathy, I know this sounds all wacky, you know, blah, blah, blah.

No, it doesn't.

Not you and I, but to an audience.

Oh, Boris, what are you going on about?

But this is, listen to me, this is a big discussion around the world.

We may not, most people are not involved in it day to day because we're interested in interest rates and what it's going to do to my mortgage or whatever.

That tends to sort of dominate our lives.

But beyond that,

beyond what dominates our lives at the moment, is a lot of people talking about this sort of stuff.

And right down to the point, and I'm not advocating for this at all, but people microdosing and psychedelics, et cetera.

And by the way, a lot of the ancient civilizations used to do this to connect themselves with perhaps this universal consciousness to, they used to think they're speaking to ancestors, but it doesn't really matter.

They might've been speaking to ancestors' spirit, let's call it spirit, or their physics.

Maybe I'd just like to, and help me out with this one, given the depth of your work and everything and your exposure and your interviews and your contacts.

and once again, I'm trying to do a reconciliation here, but is the reconciliation that if we are having contact with non-human beings, but non-human beings, and their aircraft or their craft, which we don't understand how it's propelled,

And the reason they are not a threat to us is because they have such an advanced intelligence, such an advanced intellect, that they don't see the need to be a threat like we do.

Because we're nowhere near as advanced as this.

We see everything as a threat.