Mark Bouris

It's funny how people like you and I, we get this sense that –

Isn't it great we find stuff out and we want to share it with everybody?

Have an opportunity to share what we find out.

Yeah.

Because most people don't get the opportunity to meet people you meet.

So it's Naomi, N-A-O-M-I, Simpson without a P, .com, .eu or just .com?

Just .com.

And the other podcast is called again?

Handpicked.

And where's that on Spotify?

Yeah, all of them.

All the usual things.

Can I just, I can't waste an opportunity to talk to you about the budget, if you don't mind.

Neither one of us are being political, but let's just reflect on the federal budget that's just come out.

I'm not sure when this show will be published, but it'll be still relevant, even if it's published in a week from today.

What do you think about the federal budget?

Let's talk about

For a start, discretionary trusts, just structures.

So, Naomi, what you're saying there, if I could just be clear on that, you're saying that too much too fast, but more importantly, the net effect on small business community, at least the ones that you're talking to, is that they're completely confused and now flummoxed.

Overwhelmed.