Mark Bowden

And we're getting some real pain from this person.

TV drama can't come up with this kind of material on the whole.

This is expensive stuff.

And she's there in the frame.

And I think there's a pleasure in her being there.

This lip licking, I would say, is what we call a grooming gesture or a hygienic gesture to make sure you're looking okay.

Am I looking good today?

It clears the proteins that can build up at the side of your mouth or on your lips when stress is high.

So I'd say she's feeling stressed during this, like this is hot for her, yeah?

Because this is a great moment of TV.

She's enjoying the great moment of TV.

There's stress around getting this great moment of TV.

And she's going, am I looking okay during this?

Because the shot, the public are going to be seeing me.

So, yeah, there's a lot here that might not feel quite rightly very good to viewers.

And some of the other times I see her, it's quite what I would call saccharine.

It's a little bit, you know, she's up there, lent forward.

It feels a little bit dark.

Drew Barrymore.

Yes.