Mark Bowden
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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Yeah.
So it's it's out of baseline for them.
It's unconscious for them.
It can be a self-soothing mechanism if it's done a number of times.
But again, it needs to be out of their baseline.
And this is out of their baseline.
They're not in control of themselves anymore.
When she talks about the service at the church, she braces beforehand on the table and then barriers.
So that's two adapters, which she's trained to keep like this or gesture up here.
She's not trained to brace against the table and go here.
So there is some clear worry about this story.
And it's interesting.
She says, that's my home church.
That's my home church.
Well, then go home when your family is in trouble.
Visit the home.
Hoda.
Hoda.
look, it's not bad, okay?
Like there's some elements there that are pretty good in terms of the emotion, okay?