Mark Bowden

to either of them.

Both are skeptical as to how and why this will work.

Deep down, I think she is unsure that this will actually work, I believe.

Look, somebody who's been a broadcaster at the top levels of it for that long, just like you are right now, you're very relaxed in what you're doing.

If you then go to do something else and you're not showing the same relaxation that you have now, I know you're under stress and pressure.

I know you're not in your comfort zone.

right now okay she's not in a comfort zone right now so so she's not quite at peace as to whether this is going to work or not now maybe it will maybe maybe maybe it will maybe you're not you're a nice guy

Okay.

So interesting.

She has to look away for this.

She has to look away for this and then slowly bring herself back as she starts to...

put the answer to this question together okay so this is potentially not a question that she was expecting she doesn't have a set answer for this one she has to go to get an answer and she has to slowly bring herself back with a lot of words beforehand you know i don't know yes she's kind of she's trying to constructing what's my answer gonna be for this one and she never really gets

full eye contact with the interviewer when giving this answer.

So look, interesting question from the interviewer because it's probably one she was not expecting to have to give an answer to.

She doesn't have one ready.

Well, why?

Why doesn't she have one ready on this one?

Yeah, then look how... Listen, I'm glad you mentioned that.

Listen how the laughter goes up at the end, OK?

It goes pitching up, which means the laughter isn't necessarily a release of lots of tension and then she'd give her answer.