Mark Caputo

commerce visited epstein's island and do you continue to have no i wasn't aware of it no i didn't i actually haven't spoken about it i wasn't but from what i hear he was there with his wife and children and i guess in some cases some people were i wasn't i was never there somebody will someday say that i was never there uh yeah please this announcement that you made wait i didn't know about it but yeah i don't know about it but i know all the details yeah

know but you know go ahead go on well this is this is understand this about donald trump is that when donald trump experiences something that he doesn't want to experience and it makes him look bad he calls it a hoax called covet a hoax he wasn't saying kova didn't exist he was saying that the criticisms of him were a hoax same with russia he didn't say all these different things didn't exist just that the idea that he was on the take is that's why he called the epstein files a hoax

Not that Epstein didn't do all of these dirty, terrible things that he's been accused of or that there weren't these various other criminals involved, but that the idea that he, Donald Trump, was complicit in all of this was the hoax.

And so similarly, if anyone around him is a friend and is implicated, this is how he reacts.

I'm explaining it.

I'm not excusing it.

But this is just sort of typical Trump crisis response.

Like, I don't know about it, but I know these facts.

But you know what?

I didn't do it.

Because as a character, as a historical figure, as a villain, okay?

One of the fascinating things about the villain of Jeffrey Epstein is how he was this... I'm going to use a really obscure one.

He's this zealot-like figure, right?

He was this creature who understood how power flowed, and he...

He was able somehow, and there's a lot of theories, and I'm not saying they're wrong, somehow this guy's catapulted himself into the elite of not just United States society, but global high society.

and made himself either indispensable or on a first name basis with world leaders.

If you look at the Epstein files in these emails, he's emailing people from Russia.

He's dealing with Israel a lot.

The guy was clearly, I'm not gonna say an agent, but clearly an asset of at least one, if not two, if not three intelligence agencies, like US, Israel, and Russia.

He moved in power politics circles