Mark Dubowitz

This regime, I'll say one other thing, because it's worth remembering, this regime launched chemical weapons attacks against Iranian schoolgirls in 2023 to break the back of the Women Live Freedom Movement.

So, you know, at some point, I'm not saying we go to war for the Iranian people, but the Iranian people are maybe prepared to go to war against their own regime.

Maybe the least we can do is provide them with material support to succeed.

Great honor.

Thanks, Ross.

Sure.

First of all, thanks so much for having me on.

Great to be on with Scott.

I know he and I don't agree on a lot, but I certainly admire the passion and the dedication to stopping wars.

So that's something we want to talk about.

So let's talk about how we got to this war.

So President Trump comes into office and immediately lays out that his Iran strategy is maximum pressure on the regime, and he will not allow Iran have a nuclear weapon.

And he makes that clear

consistently, I think, made it very clear during his first term, made it clear throughout his career.

And thus begins this process with the Iranians, which has kind of multiple tracks.

But the one that Trump sees most interested in at the time is the diplomatic track.

And he makes it very clear from the beginning in a sort of Oval Office remark.

He says the Iranians can either blow up their nuclear program under U.S.

supervision or someone's going to blow it up for them.

And even though, you know, at the time we think Netanyahu is really trying to push the president into a military campaign.